Reef Discussion
Me too, I want the yellow one and plenty of the amazing a. spathulata to make their way down to deer park ;)
hahahahaha it's sad how true that is, it's mostly terrible terrible ID pics of pineapple sponges or crabs and the same questions. OR people who have NO IDEA and ask questions using the sell post
I mean the discussion tab is right there! lol I have to come back here and rock in the foetal position for a little while to get my reefing sanity back!A lot of the old hands have completely stopped posting on any of the groups! And across the thousands of people in all the groups I can count on both hands the amount of people I can actually have a discussion with without flares being fired and riots occurring! lol
It's part of the reason they're going a little stale as you can't have a serious thought provoking conversation anymore like this on them. I'm really glad everyone has joined in and I love what people are saying! We need more posts!! lol
That is all
Exact quote even though I know you guys don't need the heads up! lol
"Alright, so in continuation with my aquaculture theme, I have a new question to pose to people and I want some serious answers. Nothing on the collectors, no ruining lives, no beat downs, just simple answers on peoples opinions.
And please I'm fully aware the saturation on the frag pic has been turned up a little but those colours are achievable so I don't want any arguments about that. NO DERAILING! lol
Colony pic from Reef Corner and frag pic from Unique Corals, guys please let me know if it's not cool if I use your images!
If you had a choice between a fresh SSC (strawberry shortcake colony) from your LFS that was around the $60-80 mark with decent colours or a properly coloured frag that has been aquacultured in an enclosed system, is well encrusted and a decent size with a few small branches forming for $25-35, what would you choose?
I don't care about the answer I want to know people's thoughts and I'd love some reasoning behind why too, not just A or B!"
"Alright, so in continuation with my aquaculture theme, I have a new question to pose to people and I want some serious answers. Nothing on the collectors, no ruining lives, no beat downs, just simple answers on peoples opinions.
And please I'm fully aware the saturation on the frag pic has been turned up a little but those colours are achievable so I don't want any arguments about that. NO DERAILING! lol
Colony pic from Reef Corner and frag pic from Unique Corals, guys please let me know if it's not cool if I use your images!
If you had a choice between a fresh SSC (strawberry shortcake colony) from your LFS that was around the $60-80 mark with decent colours or a properly coloured frag that has been aquacultured in an enclosed system, is well encrusted and a decent size with a few small branches forming for $25-35, what would you choose?
I don't care about the answer I want to know people's thoughts and I'd love some reasoning behind why too, not just A or B!"
Unsurprising lol tell him to hurry up then lol he keeps telling me about them as well!
Tell him I'm pestering as well and he HAS to get the yellow bits!
Mmmmm yellow bits
Love this topic!
For my needs @Wrangy I'd go B, the aquaculterd frag. The fact that it's tank hardened and not taken from the reef would sway my decision. But I totally understand if someone buys the larger wild colony, Especially in a large tank the small frag could take years to get to a size the purchaser wants.
Love this topic!
For my needs @Wrangy I'd go B, the aquaculterd frag. The fact that it's tank hardened and not taken from the reef would sway my decision. But I totally understand if someone buys the larger wild colony, Especially in a large tank the small frag could take years to get to a size the purchaser wants.
Perhaps the biggest barrier to aquaculture in Australia is the price of wild colony's.
In Aus the price difference between wild colony's and aquacultuerd frags really isn't that much so there's not much incentive to buy the smaller frag.
In the U.S they pay through their arse for a small frag let alone a colony. Price being a bigger factor they buy the frags.
In Aus the price difference between wild colony's and aquacultuerd frags really isn't that much so there's not much incentive to buy the smaller frag.
In the U.S they pay through their arse for a small frag let alone a colony. Price being a bigger factor they buy the frags.
Dave does one thing that I haven't seen other stores do which makes wild colony's an even more attractive option.
He allows the fragging/splitting of SPS in store. I often end up splitting 3 or 4 pieces with other reefers. You end up with a few frags for the price of one colony. Kind of spreads the risk a bit with wild colony's and makes it just too damned affordable to go home with a variety of colours.
Anyway, I'm getting off track and will be told off by Dom! Bring on the aqua cultured goodness!
He allows the fragging/splitting of SPS in store. I often end up splitting 3 or 4 pieces with other reefers. You end up with a few frags for the price of one colony. Kind of spreads the risk a bit with wild colony's and makes it just too damned affordable to go home with a variety of colours.
Anyway, I'm getting off track and will be told off by Dom! Bring on the aqua cultured goodness!
This is the biggest factor of success in the US but it's also to do with the way the hobby evolved over there too! I think it's also going to be one of the larger influences here too!
Dave has the unfair advantage of doing everything right though :P I love the man hahaha @Deerpark Aquarium lets see if he'll blush! :rofl
Being able to frag pieces in store definitely changes the game though! Then again given the stock he's getting in I'd happily pay colony prices for frags! lol
I think people prefer cultured stuff and frags when it comes to SPS.
I remember having a SSC colony that I had grown from about tennis ball sized to the sized of a small plate. When I was shutting the tank down I had to get rid of it and I thought I deserved $100 for my efforts. Two weeks on you could hear the tumble weeds blowing past the ad.
I relisted it for $50. and after a week I get one reply of someone asking if I will do a small frag of it for $20. Im thinking shit, you can buy the whole thing for $50 but you will pay me $20 for one stick ok.
So I do my normal trick of trying to cut a single stick off with side cutters and smashing the entire colony doing so and decided to mount them all up on frag plugs and wait a could of weeks for them to encrust.
I put a new add up for the frags at $20 each and they sold like hot cakes, people where buying two to three at a time and within a week Id made over $500 off that colony.
The mentality to this day still baffles me that so many people will buy three sticks frags of SPS for more than a full sized colony?
I remember having a SSC colony that I had grown from about tennis ball sized to the sized of a small plate. When I was shutting the tank down I had to get rid of it and I thought I deserved $100 for my efforts. Two weeks on you could hear the tumble weeds blowing past the ad.
I relisted it for $50. and after a week I get one reply of someone asking if I will do a small frag of it for $20. Im thinking shit, you can buy the whole thing for $50 but you will pay me $20 for one stick ok.
So I do my normal trick of trying to cut a single stick off with side cutters and smashing the entire colony doing so and decided to mount them all up on frag plugs and wait a could of weeks for them to encrust.
I put a new add up for the frags at $20 each and they sold like hot cakes, people where buying two to three at a time and within a week Id made over $500 off that colony.
The mentality to this day still baffles me that so many people will buy three sticks frags of SPS for more than a full sized colony?
I wonder how hard they are to spawn... :rolleyes cultured frags with their own inhabitants!
@NiCd it is a strange mentality but I do agree with Luke about the satisfaction of growing them out and the work and love you put in to see the rewards! Hell I get excited when a zoa frag drops a new polyp haha
I think it's the large initial outlay that does kill interest though, which would be an issue if you were a small business and had a minimum order going so you weren't sending single frags at a time! lol
Value and smarts wise I would hands down go the colony every time but sometimes the cash flow isn't quite there so I might still opt for the single polyp if I was after that particular coral for long enough!
Would be awesome if Aus could evolve in a similar way with big frag meets and events, hobbyists and local businesses could attend and sell/trade frags, equipment and talk about everything related. Sadly I don't think we'll see it. Just not enough hobbyists. Maybe in the eastern states it could happen.
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