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Synodontis

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Morning all,

Had a play down at Jaycar Saturday afternoon, came home with some bits & pieces. Butchered a little project box up but at $5 each, theres room to butcher a few more. Got all the measurement's to tidy it up a bit more in a new box. The four red button's work well, but I had to stagger them a bit to get them working. I haven't added anything to the typhon board, these buttons just push the original buttons on the board. All I did was pull the guts out of the switch, all I wanted was the actual push button action. The original buttons on the board provide the return spring? for lack of a better word lol.

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Time taken to build, 2.5hr's, including coffee & smoke breaks.
For anyone who is interested, the part's list....
1x HB6080 encl bulkhead 110/66/36mm $4.95
4x SP0702 switch push mom spst rnd red $3.95
For a grand total of $20.75 :D

Gotta be happy enough with that, HooRoo

K&J
 
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'vspec'

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You at least have to throw an aircraft safety switch in the mix then.
Looking good bud, although I think your staggered button story is a little thin..lol
 

Synodontis

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Morning all,

Just finished playing in the garage. Drilled a few hole's & threaded a few wire's. Might have to start playing with the solder again tomorrow night. :)

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2 things.. i havnt read the whole thread.. but i like what im seeing.. thing 1.. Looking forward to meeting you guys on sunday.. and STOKED to hear about the smoke breaks.. (i wont have to stand out side alone.. ) Thing 2.. im pretty handy with most things electronic.. let me know if i can return the favor. and feel free to bring some project with you to solder up while we wait for water to warm up..
 

Synodontis

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Morning all,

Guess what! I is a happy chappy tonight. :D Of all the half ass idea's & job's started, this light would have to be one of the scariest I have attempted! This is ONE of the light's I have to make below. I still have to make another for the other end of the tank. I was a bit (well alot) nervous as if it didn't ALL fire up first time I would have been pissed and sooked all night thinking "where did I bugger up?" I'm pretty stoked cause once I "hot wired" the driver's & Typhon tonight, with lot's of insulation tape! It fired up first time! Woo-bloody-Hoo! for me lol. :D I spent today soldering & adjusting driver's. So what's in the light??

20ft of heat sink
5ft of anodized 25x25mm angle
32 stainless bolt's
104 LED's
208 drilled holes
208 stripped wires
208 tinned wires
208 solder connections
24 meters of wire
8 Mean-well ELN-60-48P drivers
1 Typhon controller

The only thing for the next light is I dont need another Typhon controller lol. Bring on the pic's!

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These 2 pic's are off my mobile...

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So as you can see, I been busy for a few day's & tonight it all came together. Forgive my over enthusiasm, lol, but I'm just happy it work's! :D & it's been a long project to only be half way through.

K&J
 

DavidS

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As always, absolutely epic! I'm starting to wonder what the largest DIY LED kit ever built is - by the time this is finished, it would have to be close.
Can't wait to come have a squiz at this one going :D
 
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'vspec'

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Ken??........ where you at??..... I'm blind!
Quick, shake and bake both them fords before your corrupted and tainted any further..lol

Nice job my man. You deserve a drink!
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Synodontis

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Morning all,

Thanks for the comments guys, & I'll have a very large scotch & coke 'vspec' :)
Mounted the drivers on the heat sinks. I wanted to have them hidden in the cabinet somewhere but just couldnt find the room for 16 of the buggers. At least this way everything is complete & together. Spoken to the perspex guys & they are making up the covering for the light. Not sure if we use the mirror perspex for the underside of the light? then black for the rest . More thinking, coffee & smokes before final decision me thinks.

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Finally got it above the tank today to see if it would do the job. This is only the blue LED's @85% didn't get a chance to get pics of the other three colors coming on.

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I'm happy enough with the end result. Just makes the left end of the tank look like shit lol. This pic has 250w halides on the left & the DIY LED on the right. I think you can see the difference, it's worse when you are standing in front off the tank.

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These are B,RB@85% & CW,NW@75% Top pic is from my mobile, middle is from the point & shoot camera. Bottom is point & shoot again, with 3x 250w halides, you can really see the difference in the tank. :D

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That's about it for now. Still have to work out how to hang the bloody thing & the final outer covering, oh yeah! & repeat the whole process again for the other end of the tank! :cry

TTFN
K&J
 

Synodontis

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The shimmer is not to bad really. You can notice it on the sand, but because its a crisper light, not across the top of the tank. With the halides you can see the shimmer on the back of the tank, sand & on the surface.
I tried to cover all the bases with the LED choice with help from yourself & others on site.
26 CW with 80deg lense
26 NW with 60deg lense
26 RB with 80deg lense
13 B3 Blue with 60 deg lense
13 B4 Blue with 60deg lense
So there is no spot lighting & a very even crisp light fall across the whole area. :)
 

Synodontis

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Well the LED light is all done! :D Hanging above the tank looking all pretty like. It's been a long project & both Jen & I are happy with the out come. Still a few things to tidy up & sort out but they are only touch up things. Thought I might sum up the build with a bit more info on some of the bits & pieces in one post.
I marked out on the heatsink where the LED's would sit along with the holes needed for the wires. It would have been easier to just run the wires along the heatsink but I think drilling the holes & hiding the bulk of the wires on top of the sink looks a lot better with so many LED's. The heatsink's are in total 10ft long, the tank is 10ft 2inches long. Once the number of LED's had been decided on with a lot of patience from MagicJ Matt G & others, trying to work out the spacing for each was next. Wasn't that fun! :confused: it now sits like this across the front of the tank, at each end the first LED is 120mm in from each end, spacing is then 110mm centre to centre, in the middle of the tank where each heatsink meets the spacing between each centre to centre is 115mm. From front to rear of the tank which is 2ft 6 inches, there are two heat sinks. The LED's are in groups of two, blue/white. The spacing on the heatsink for the groups of two is 40mm, the spacing between each group is 60mm. I hope that makes sense! For the sake of it I'll add that I used a 100watt soldering iron to tin the stars & a 35watt iron to tin the wires & attach the wires to the stars.
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I figured the easiest way to keep some sort of order to the wires was to just thread each color wire over the top of the intended LED. Then all I had to do was cut each wire & solder in place. Just had to remember to go from + to - on each LED.
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Next on the to do list was fixing the lenses onto the LED's. I was trying to cover the bases with the selection to eliminate any spot lighting or dark spots. With the tank being 2ft 6 inches deep, making sure the light gets to the bottom of the tank was also a concern. There are four color LED's in use- blue, royal, cool & neutral. The lenses are set as- blue=60deg, royal=80deg, cool=60deg, neutral=80deg. I have used two different bin blues. The white base you can see in the pic was from a Aus supplier. They must use a different method to attach the LED to the star. A larger dollop of solder meant I had to modify the lens base to suit. Out came the dremal again.
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I made up a frame to hold the drivers & connection boxes from 25x25mm aluminum angle. The idea came from 192 kHz 32 Bit in this thread. At each end there is another aluminum 50x22 rectangle block the the angle sits on. I used JB Weld to attach the angle to the block. Great stuff when you dont have a tig welder in your garage! Drys overnight & is a liquid metal, so when its dry you can cut, drill, tap or file it. I just used it as a glue & it works great. I cut slots into the angle to allow for the power cords of the drivers. I also used stainless steel bolts with stainless steel nylock nuts to attach the drivers to the angle.
On the electrical side, I used black plastic project boxes from Jaycar. With so many wires running into the box, I broke them down to channels. The unions that the wires run through where a bugger to drill out. Nothing a cheap dremal kit from Jaycar couldnt fix tho. It was just time consuming drilling so many out. The black wires going in are the + & - for the LED channels, the white wires going in are for the dimming on four channels.
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In total there are 16 Mean-Well ELN-60-48P drivers, 8 on each heatsink. Each driver runs 13 Cree XPG/E LED's. On each heat sink there is two groups of 13 & two groups of 12. The 13th LED for each group of 12 is on the other heatsink. I could have mixed 1 blue in with royal & 1 cool with the neutral to keep everything on one heatsink, but thought it better to keep the groups all the same. A little more work wiring them up above the tank but I think it was worth it. Each driver is running at 800mV, I know most run the driver at 750mV but I was thinking on the "bigger" then most tanks theory & thought it would just give it a little more kick.
So once put together it looks like this. The box with no lid is the LED power & dimmer power out. The box behind with the lid on is the main 240V power into the drivers. All 8 drivers are run off one plug, so two plugs only for the LED power.
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I decided to go with the typhoon controller from BoostLED to run it all. Nothing flash, but all it has to do is turn the lights on & off, which it does with ease. It turns on each channel when needed & fades each channel in & out. What else do you need for your lights? Its set & forget so I wont tidy up the box for it. It will live above the lights out of sight as I dont want to be playing with it all the time. As long as it works & I can get to it when needed, it's perfect. I sent Boost an E-mail asking if the controller would run 4 drivers per channel, 16 in total? Their reply was " We know it works with three drivers per channel, but dont know if it will work with four, it should" Well I'm happy to say it works with no problems at all & if your looking for a basic controller out of the box plug & play, this will do the job! You can read DavidS review here
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Then I had to work out how to hang the whole lot above the tank, safely! I used 25x25mm aluminum tube from Bunnings to build the frame. The frame that actually sits on the tank, the aluminum square has a small lip that locks over the lip on the tank. This stops the frame from moving sideways or lengthways when you bump it or working around the tank. I cut it so that it is a firm fit into the inside of the tank. Then just used the normal square tube to work up from there. Very easy stuff to work with & the plastic fittings make it so easy.
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To hang the lights from the frame, I used stainless steel swageless fittings from Bunnings. The stainless cable is 3.2mm & I highly recommend that you buy the tool for cutting the cable. I tried with wire cutters & it left a shit finish. The proper tool is about $40 but well worth it & its something else to drop in the tool chest when your done.
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The completed light looks great & performs really well. The pic below has the LED's running at only 40% so there is heaps of room to move.
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So thats about it really, job done & time for a coffee. Please feel free to leave any comments/questions & I will answer what I can. :D
K&J
 

MagicJ

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This has taken a fair while to complete Ken but you have done a great job :)

Any plan to put something in front of the lights so you don't go blind?
 

joey13

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This would be the neatest and biggest DIY setups I've seen. Well done @Synodontis .

Now all you have to do is make one for my 5 footer and we are all set to go!! :p:p:p